ニューヨーク・タイムズのインスタグラム(nytimes) - 11月22日 02時02分

Last week, @トレーシー・エリス・ロス, the star of @BlackishABC, interviewed @ミシェル・オバマ about her new memoir, "Becoming," at @theforum in Inglewood, California. The next morning, the pair met again for a more intimate conversation with our columnist Philip Galanes.

TRACEE ELLIS ROSS: We’re living in this time, because of social media, where everything is a sound bite. We lose the context of where things actually come from. We use our stories, and other people’s stories, to make jokes about each other and to pit ourselves against each other — instead of as a way to connect.

MICHELLE OBAMA: And this also gets distorted by whose stories are put out there. Part of why I knew my book had to be done, and done well, is because it’s a rare moment in history that a black woman gets to tell her own story. Success stories look a certain way: they’re male; they’re white; they’re wealthy. That’s what power looks like because we’ve been taught that. And we question stories that are different from the ones we’re used to. How many stories do you know where millions of people are hearing about strong women, told by a woman, and hearing her pain?

To read more of their discussion, visit the link in our profile. Michelle #Obama and Tracee Ellis Ross were photographed by @emilyberl.

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