TIME Magazineのインスタグラム(time) - 8月19日 04時51分
Hong Kong’s eleventh straight weekend of antigovernment protests culminated in a large rally at the city’s Victoria Park on Aug. 18. Tens of thousands chanted “Free Hong Kong! Democracy Now!” and “Fight for freedom! Stand for Hong Kong!” as a heavy rain fell. Many at the #protest carried banners decrying alleged police brutality and what they claim is collusion between law enforcement and criminal gangs known as triads. There were no major street battles or arrests, to the considerable relief of many in the restive enclave. By the middle of Sunday afternoon, large numbers of protesters defied a police order and began streaming from #VictoriaPark towards the central business district. The sheer number of marchers overwhelmed major roads and brought parts of downtown #HongKong to a virtual standstill. Read more at the link in bio. Photograph by @adamfergusonstudio for TIME
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【我給你講講為什麼內地人這么生氣】
1,那個女孩的眼睛到底是誰打傷的,廢青沒有提供任何有力證據,視頻清清楚楚看到沒有布袋,既然你們覺得是警察,至今沒有化驗單? ?沒有取出來的實物? ?在擔心什麼? ?
2,廢青說自己爭取民主自由,且不論那五條提的有沒有問題,你們爭取民主自由的方式就是如此野蠻?揮別美國國旗?和平遊行打人?打記者?堵機場?
3,說自己不是港獨。你可能不是港獨,但能不能睜眼看看你們遊行隊伍有沒有變質?有沒有被別的勢力鼓動的痕跡?看看你們領頭的學生在幹什麼,他們和什麼人見面,去哪裡上學,受到誰的幫助?不是所有打著勇敢和特立獨行的旗號就都是對的,香港青年,請你自己好好了解一下引渡條例再談見解,不要盲從你身邊的人或者你們以為的“潮流”,不要成為政客的手柄。
4,你們看到了中國的網民有多憤怒,而ig和fb上的只是冰山一角中的一角,中國政府如果真的要鎮壓,根本不需要等這麼久,你們覺得兩百萬人很多,你算算十四億是什麼概念,國內有太多人呼籲政府出兵,到如今,中國政府是唯一還在努力不干涉,努力維護一國兩制的角色。請你再看看西方主流媒體的報導,尤其是美系的新聞,全在等著看中國出兵,基本所有在香港發生的事都被報導成“我們預測這是中國出兵的藉口”這就是你們所謂的沒有偏向性嗎?只有把香港當成自己人的政府還在克制。
5,歷史事件是複雜的,各有理解,沒有所謂一定是真相。我看了很多大陸對8964事件的解讀,也看了國外的,甚至我身邊的上一輩人很多都去圍觀或參加過這場運動,沒有哪個政黨傻到在首都屠殺學生,抓人需要理由的,不過是媒體各有偏向。而廢青們瘋狂說的坦克人,請你們去谷歌下完整的視頻,那個人沒死。 。 。而且是他主動跑去像瘋狗一樣鬧,最後軍人選擇繞開他走,你們願意相信一個這樣的人都不去撞的軍人會去屠殺無辜的人,那我也不知道還能說什麼了。
6,多數人對大陸和中國政府有偏見,我們可以理解,因為大陸的牆不只隔離了我們,也隔離了你們,打著人權的旗號認為大陸暴政的廢青,你們有幾個人了解過這片土地的歷史,了解過她的人民的意願,了解過形成這種穩定的集體主義的根源,了解過東西方各種價值觀的差異,如果只是站在你們以為的“先進”角度,那也就只是盲目。美國和歐洲是世界上話語權最勝的地區,全球的規則、秩序、新聞甚至APP都要用他們推廣的,這裡有一個敢於和別人不一樣的中國,你們卻都不願深入了解一下就認定大陸人生活在被洗腦以後的水深火熱當中,你富足和平到閒的跑來打字的大陸同胞深感惋惜。
7,從事件一開始就關注了國內外的報導(國外主要是bbc,cnn和紐約時報)我承認國內的報導有一定偏向性,但你也要意識到國外的輿論環境沒你想的那麼清澈,報導從用詞到標題無不透露出一股濃郁的看客氣息,你可以嘗試一下Google“Hong Kong”,你看看新聞版面有報導記者被打事件的嗎,按正常的新聞倫理,任何記者在採訪中受到傷害都是重大的事件,刻意縮小這件事,或者揣測這件事“是中國政府動兵的藉口”,這都是不符合客觀性原則的,(不要和我說,這個鬼東西沒有任何可信度)你們以為中國封閉到沒有任何自由,實際在政治的世界里天下烏鴉一般黑,哪個國家沒有偏向?
8,你們覺得可以罵共產黨就是言論自由,這是非常幼稚的想法。每個地區有其獨特的價值情感偏向,人們對很多事有自己的原則底線,好比你去德國發表一下種族主義言論試一下,這時你會說,這是德國人的傷痛,德國人是嚴謹的,不愛開玩笑的民族,我們要尊重他們的感受。其實你在中國也是這樣,沒人堵住你的嘴,你可以想,可以說,不過你要看看周圍有沒有人打你。言論自由不是可以肆意胡說,有些東西在人們心裡很珍貴,不能碰就是不能碰。
9說到這涉及到最重要的問題,為什麼大陸人這麼憤怒。我們看到扔國旗,塗國徽的視頻,這涉及到兩地人們對國家符號的精神寄託不一樣,也許你們對國旗沒什麼感情,只是一個政權的象徵,但在大陸人眼裡,這就是中國尊嚴的象徵。在我們這個集體比個人重要的地方,國旗和國徽確是比人要重要的多,因為在我們心裡這個東西象徵的是當下中國這片土地的所有的活生生的人,你可以摁著我在我臉上吐唾沫,你不能扔我的國旗。這不是極端政權洗腦的結果,這只是對符號意義的不同建構,你們唾棄這種愛國精神,可鼓動你們上街的人,不也在利用你心裡的愛港嗎?
10,最後功利一點講,作為一場政治運動你們的目的能實現任何一個嗎?為什麼你們的特首寧願把事情搞這麼大都不順了你們的意見,背後有誰的壓力你們應該最清楚。既沒有軍事力量,也沒有經濟支持,一場無法實現任何目標的政治運動,除了給你們留下犯罪的印記和你們以為的“美好回憶”,其他什麼都做不到。這樣的政治運動,你會叫它勝利嗎?到最後,只能演變成就地解散各回各家、暴力恐怖行為或者別國勢力介入。任何一種,受傷的都只有你和香港。
多和你們的老一輩人聊聊,上一代香港人見過世界,這一代香港人只見過香港
xiaoya995
HK POLICE WERE VERY restrained,but it’s very interesting that there rioters always provoked HK police,like use laser pen hurt HK police eyes ,media ignores these and keeps waiting until HK police get fighters back ,then that media catch up that moment for made fake news because that media always thinks all people will stand weaknesses,but it’s not true ,the true is they were not protestors they are rioters,they hurt innocent HK people and destroyed public facilities and many many innocent passengers can’t go home .and they always say freedom ,they don’t like China government , but HK is not under China government control , they still under HK government now , they choose their government,it’s one country 2 system ,so what do they want ?and if they don’t like their government,they can leave,they have visa can go every where .no one could stop them .they already get more freedom even their visa ,they were spoiled by one country 2system and don’t know thankful
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It breaks my heart as Hong Kong is the pearl of the east, it is used to be a beautiful and peaceful city, and now it turns into hell because of those rioters. Hong Kong’s “85000 housing policy”and “Cyberport Plan”were against by its own citizens, they are a group of people who are easily incited by local plutocrats-thus Hong Kong lost the future for its young people due to high price house and limited jobs. I support Hong Kong Police. Hong Kong will lose hope if this chaos continues.
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@salisolmaz yes,everyone has his own purpose, the numbers aren't. that important. The most important thing is that I living in China, and I feel safe and happy. We can get well educated and good medical condition, we can go anywhere we want. We can walk along in the street midnight without afraid of bad guys. The government can respond citizens' demands. Why not talk about it peacefully instead of violence like that?😢
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